
In today's episode we will conclude the series I started eight days ago about Samael Aun Weor's Gnosis and the sad story of the murder of baby Verónica Herrera by her own mother Olga Herrera, in what I consider was a crime fostered by Samael Aun Weor's sect. In today's episode we will finish talking about Samael, I will explain in detail why gnosis is so dangerous from my personal experience with the sect, and I will tell you what I believe really happened with the murder of innocent Verónica.

Mexico is a nation where, just like in Colombia, magical realism is lived intensely, and its people form an amalgam of faith, traditions, beliefs and superstitions, which, when mixed with poverty, violence, lack of opportunities and the hope for a better tomorrow, become a breeding ground for all kinds of churches, sects and pseudoscientific systems that, in my opinion, in the end do more harm than good to the people they claim to help.
Under other circumstances, Victor Manuel Gómez might have been a political leader of the same stature as Jorge Eliécer Gaitán, a figure he was often compared to because of his eloquence, his marked Bogotan accent and even a certain physical resemblance. His public influence was such that he won the interest of the biggest star of Spanish-language cinema of all time: Mario Moreno “Cantinflas”, of whom he was spiritual guide and teacher, and who benefited from the generous donations of the famous and wealthy Mexican actor.
In Mexico, Samael produced the vast majority of his gnostic books, covering topics such as theurgy or ceremonial magic, a practice of Greek origin related to mediumship that was explored and spread by the famous English occultist Aleister Crowley. He also wrote about runes, Kabbalah, tarot, extraterrestials, reincarnation and, of course, continued to stress the importance of practicing sahaja maithuna or sexual magic to annihilate the ego and conquer psychic powers.

The other event that would also end up impacting my life decades later happened toward the end of his life, when he intensified his references to indigenous gods and traditions in his writings. Examples of this were his books “Aztec Christian Magic” from 1973, “The Secret Doctrine of Anahuac” from 1974, “The Mayan Mysteries” from 1977 and “Gnostic Anthropology”, which was released to the public in 1978, shortly after his death in December 1977.
In these books, which despite their titles speak very little of the real traditions and cosmogony of the indigenous peoples he mentions, Samael rather tries to argue that Native American peoples are essentially gnostic and that gnosis is inherently compatible with ancestral spiritual systems.
This claim, which does not withstand a serious anthropological or sociological analysis, nevertheless served him to attract a large number of indigenistas, neo-shamans and mestizos in search of the spirituality of their ancestors forgotten over time. In this last group were found the grandfathers Suagagua and Xieguazinsa, founders of the Pueblo Nación Muisca-Chibcha, who during the final years of Samael Aun Weor's life became active members and priests of the Gnostic Church, even traveling to Mexico to meet their teacher directly, as grandfather Suagagua told me.
Another indigenista leader who followed the Samaelian teachings was Domingo Días Porta, who in 1977 founded the Mancomunidad de la América India Solar (M.AI.S.), the organization to which Amilcar Vargas belonged, who was my guest in a conversatorio some time ago. Días Porta and the brothers Ingatyba Neusa, along with many other followers of Samael, devoted themselves to spreading the gnostic doctrine conveniently syncretized or adapted within the indigenous traditions that they simultaneously strove to rescue and resignify. On one occasion, grandfather Xieguazinsa explained to me line by line chapter XIX of the book “The Secret Doctrine of Anahuac” in which, according to his interpretation, Samael invites the American peoples to awaken their gods through sexual magic:
“Outside of the physical body, the awakened man can invoke the holy gods of the Aztecs, Mayas, Toltecs, etc.
The gods of the Borgia, Borbónico codices, etc., etc., etc., come at the call of the awakened man.
With the aid of the holy gods, the awakened man can study, in the astral light, the Secret Doctrine of ANAHUAC.”
These agreements, some public and others secret, between the Samaelian gnostic organizations and indigenist movements, were the prelude to the disappearance of the famous esoteric leader. In August 1977, Samael began to feel unwell, to lose weight and to lose his appetite. In October he had an apparent improvement, but in November he was struck by violent abdominal pains that finally prevented him from continuing with his travels and work activities. Summoning his courage, he showed up at a festival organized by AGEACAC called “Quetzalcoatl Day”, but he could barely stand on his feet. He spoke for 15 minutes in what would be his last public appearance.
Afflicted by the intense pains and intuiting the nearness of his departure, he emphasized in his speech the importance of suffering, torture and martyrdom for the liberation of the soul. He urged the congregation to follow in the steps of the Christ of Nazareth, carrying his cross, in order to become through it the feathered serpent of the Aztec myth. By the way, he reminded everyone that the cross symbolizes a lingam or phallus piercing the threshold of the yoni or vagina. What did sex have to do with the martyrdoms of his illness? Probably nothing, but paying attention to his writings, especially those of the book “The Three Mountains”, Samael reproached himself for his sexual behaviors and considered that such “sins” always ended in a painful punishment:
“My son!” You must suffer patiently the consequences of your errors”, exclaimed my Divine Mother KUNDALINI…
Another night, full of pain, my Mother exclaims with a loud voice, saying:
“My son! You have betrayed me over there in the physical world with other women…”
That was in the past, my Mother: I am not betraying you with anyone now…
“You have betrayed me with other women”.
The past is the past, what matters is the present; I live from instant to instant; I do wrong in arguing with you…
“Past, present or future, you are the same…”
This book, which Samael wrote in 1972, is by the way the one his followers point to as containing “literally” the exact prediction of his death. However, in my research for this episode the closest thing I found was the account of a vision or dream in which he traveled through several planets of the solar system, before encountering the Hindu god Shiva, who asked him to read the lines of his hand (…), Samael agreed but in them he saw his own future. He tells of seeing himself at 53 years of age, that is, the age he was two years before the publication of the book, and that from then on he saw 8 years of struggles and sufferings that he called “the trial of Job”, at the end of which he would have to pay the “tithes of Neptune” to then resurrect.
One could recognize the coincidence, were it not that unless “tithes of Neptune” is translated as his death, but Samael himself explains in the same book that tithes in their inner aspect refer to something like the scale of Karma. On the other hand, Samael died on December 24, 1977 at the age of 60, that is, seven years after 53 (close, indeed), but hardly can one say they were seven years of suffering when in fact they were his most prosperous years and of greatest fame before the five months of hardship he lived before leaving this world.
I did not find any reliable reference about the illness that afflicted Samael. The accounts of his son Horus speak of an intense constant pain in the region of the pylorus, that is, the lower part of the stomach. It is known that he took allopathic medicines, not homeopathic ones, nor the ones he taught to prepare in his book of occult medicine and practical magic. He also attended regular hospitals with university-graduate doctors who administered him strong analgesics for the pain. At this point Horus jumps ahead in his account and tells how Samael said he could not cure himself “because so it was written”.
During the last days of his convalescence the pains became more and more unbearable and when they subsided, Samael said he was suffering enormously for the “salvation of this suffering humanity” and that it was a necessary process to become Christified. However, the guru mentioned several times that he would be saved, that he only had to pass the trial of Job and then he would emerge triumphant; he even promised his wife Litelantes to take her to Tibet.
On December 10, 1977 he submitted to an abdominal surgery, but the doctors informed his family that there was nothing that could be done and gave him a prognosis of barely a few more days of life. Grandfather Luis Sánchez told me that a person close to his mother during the time she was a gnostic priestess met one of the doctors who operated on Samael that day, and told him that when they opened his belly, they found everything carbonized, as if it had burned. Understanding that there was nothing that could be done for him, they closed his abdomen and pronounced him hopeless immediately. Grandfather Luis told me that Samael had carbonized from within with his own sexual energy badly transmuted. I rather believe the doctors' view was that of a cancer with metastasis and probably necrosis or something like that, otherwise he surely would have been the subject of studies and analyses.
Shortly after, the doctors discharged him so he could spend his last days at home, where his family administered him palliative care. A few days before his death he had a surprising improvement, which is a frequent event in terminal patients shortly before their passing. On December 23 they say he woke up saying:
– “In the future I will be very rich, a millionaire, the most millionaire of the world, because you should know that I will have all the riches of the world, but although it may be very high I will be the humblest of the world”
Besides that, that day he did not receive food, he was running out of energy. On December 24 shortly before midnight, Samael Aun Weor left this world amidst the rituals and prayers his family and friends were doing trying to reverse the inevitable.
From that moment on the hopes of his family and his followers centered on another prophecy he had mentioned on several occasions, that when he died he would last without life for only three hours or a maximum of three days and that he would then return with his resurrected body to give testimony of having defeated death with his inner work of so many years.
It goes without saying that the hours, the days, the months and the years passed and Victor Manuel Gómez Rodríguez was never seen again in this valley of tears. That did not prevent more than one from appearing proclaiming to be the reincarnation of Samael Aun Weor, such as Samael Joav Bathor Weor, leader of a shadowy Colombian sect called Tao, which I will talk about in a future episode and which has nothing to do with the Tao of China. The small problem is that Joav Bathor was born seven years before Samael's death.
And just as the Tao of Joav Bathor and his father Kelium Zeus emerged, after Samael's death an infinity of Samaelian gnostic groups sprang up throughout Latin America, detractors of Samael and secret Samaelians like the case of the Pueblo Nación Muisca-Chibcha in Colombia and the MAIS organization in Mexico.
All the direct disciples of Samael and many who barely came to know him in person became venerable masters and purported successors of Samael, so it was no surprise that many of them became bitter enemies of each other and still today devote themselves to denigrating and discrediting one another. This includes his wife Litelantes and his children who remained in charge of the organizations that the late Samael led, Joaquim Henrique Amortegui – alias Ravolu, Júlio Medina Viscaino – alias Gargha Kuichines and many others. Even my friend grandfather Juver Osorio devoted years to writing letters to gnostics of the world “chanting the table” at them for what he considered a monumental misinterpretation of Samael's teachings.

The only thing on which all, or almost all, agree is in recognizing Samael Aun Weor as a kind of messiah, a Christ and the creator of the true gnostic doctrine for the liberation of the being and perfection as humans. Gnostic groups of all kinds can be found in almost any neighborhood of the main cities of Mexico, Colombia, Argentina, Spain, Brazil, Venezuela and the American cities with the largest Latin American population. However, gnosis has reached other cultures beyond the Latin American one and over the Internet I have seen Samaelian groups in English, French, Romanian, Swedish and Russian.
The Samaelian doctrine, despite the breadth of its bibliography, could be summarized in a few words: Conservative religious moralism of the mid-twentieth century enormously influenced by Catholicism, condemnation of all kinds of vices, with particular emphasis on alcoholism and infidelity, which were two temptations he himself acknowledged taking a long time to overcome, although there are stories that they rather accompanied him throughout his life.

According to gnosis, life is basically a training ground to which we come reincarnating from error to error and from life to life, and the goal is to try to escape that cycle of deaths and rebirths to reach Nirvana or a spiritual world of pure happiness and joy in the presence of God. So far, the part copied from Hinduism.
What gnosis offers is a path, techniques and the “knowledge” to achieve that liberation from the wheel of samsara, and it is based on what Samael called in his books the “annihilation of the ego”. According to this theory, human beings live in constant struggle against nature, which, through the pleasures of the flesh, the vices and the instincts, wants to keep us in slavery. Here we can already notice the moralism of this cosmogony and the total opposition to the ancestral indigenous thought in which we are one with Nature and not its enemies.
To defeat those “spiritual aggregates”, Samael prescribes as the ONLY way out, work on the anvils of the blazing volcano, the razor's edge path, the AFZ arcana or sahaja maithuna, which are the names he gives to “sexual magic”, which is basically having sex without letting a single drop of semen escape. For women it is not clear what the task is beyond “helping the man”, but there are those who say they must not have orgasms or get wet “more than necessary”. For others, the exact opposite, their function is for the man to be able to give her as many orgasms as possible while he stoically withstands the ejaculation reflex. This is the part gnosis extracted from Tantra.
After finishing the “great work”, the couple must sit in meditation and through Kegel exercises, “pump” the sexual energy or kundalini through the spine activating the seven chakras on its path, until reaching the crown chakra where, according to Samael, one obtains the flaming sword of magical powers with which egos can be turned into cosmic dust.
That is the “what”; the “how” is not indicated either in Samael's books or anywhere, but all the gnostics I have known have some version similar to “making use of the active imagination” to visualize the energy climbing up the spine, using the breath to move it through the body and then deliver the decisive sword strike to the egos. The last one, probably also with the active imagination.
But where Samael focused his flaming sword furiously was on all non-traditional sexual conduct. All members of the LGTBI+ community and people with fluid or diverse gender were for him “infra-sexuals” condemned irremediably to the flames of the infernal worlds. Even practitioners of innocent and healthy masturbation were part, according to him, of the scum of the world for whom he said “it would be better for them not to have been born” or to “tie a millstone around their neck and throw themselves into the sea”.
And this is the fundamental point. From there on, gnosis is full of pseudoscientific history talking about extraterrestials and Atlanteans mixed up with biblical stories and Hindu gods. Another good part of the gnostic doctrine consists of magical practices like conjurations, ceremonies, rituals and brews that have as their object to “help” the gnostic with their process of sexual magic, or bring them abundance, prosperity or iron health. The events I narrated about Samael's death may give an idea of the efficacy of those practices.
As I said before, the great attraction of Samael's work is his grandiloquent and showy literary style, which, being supremely chaotic, dark and vague, gives room for an infinite number of interpretations and that whoever wants to believe in gnosis always finds some way of making the theories fit and the prophecies hit. The promise of gnosis is supremely attractive because it offers everything other religions offer but with a specific method that in principle does not sound at all unpleasant: You can achieve the end of your suffering, abundance, happiness and as a bonus a life of pleasures in the hereafter after death… by having sex every day and making astral travels during the night… The only thing you have to give in exchange is your life, your peace of mind and your mental stability.
Because then we arrive at the most important part of this account: gnosis is a sect and it is very dangerous. Beneath the apparently harmless theory of sexual magic hides a seven-headed demon, and I will explain why.
Gnosis is like a fishing rod where the bait is the famous astral travel and some meditation techniques and the hook is sexual magic. When someone is initiated into gnosis, they are told of a secret knowledge that will transform their life, but it will not be handed over to them until they are in the second chamber, or better said, until they are already neck-deep in gnosis. This is one of the elements that identifies it as a sect.
Before delivering the knowledge of sexual magic, the apprentice receives the “lighter” books of Samael where they learn about goodness, will and justice, and they are being primed that they will be someone very important, a solar warrior, a member of an army of light, and they are being disconnected from the things of the world, including television, parties, alcohol, pornography, gambling, social networks. In exchange, they are being handed rituals, prayers, and soon they are told of the astral travel, which is nothing but the capacity to have lucid dreams, another topic I will touch on soon.
These changes, in the life of a person who has generally arrived at gnosis in the midst of a personal tragedy, vices or a lack of purpose, usually generate a positive change. The person has begun to look inward, to do things in furtherance of their personal growth and to disconnect from things that, to be frank, yes, usually do more harm than good. Then the future initiate is invigorated, feels strong, the use of will improves self-esteem, there is a better concept of oneself, new friendships and all of that results in better levels of serotonin, emotion, joy and optimism.
Then, if the student correctly performs the techniques for the out-of-body exit, in a matter of a few weeks they begin to have some rudimentary experiences of lucid dreaming. This is usually a very exciting event and for many, the experience of being outside the body and even seeing other worlds, flying, passing through walls or traveling in time, becomes the confirmation that everything Samael Aun Weor says is true. The aspirant becomes an initiate of the inner worlds: they have bitten the bait.
Because everything I just said is real. Well, more or less. It is real in the sense that it can effectively be experienced. Lucid dreaming is a widely documented although not fully understood phenomenon by science. I have had that experience on many occasions, but above all and more intensely, during my years of work in gnosis. It is an experience worth having, but as I will explain in another episode, it has nothing to do with gnosis nor can all the things Samael promises be done: exiting the body, traveling in time, speaking with spiritual beings… None of that has been scientifically verifiable despite many scientists having tried.
The thing is that for someone who has never had a metaphysical experience, the astral travel is, as I said, a confirmation (though misleading) that what gnosis promises is true. At this point the apprentice is already committed to esotericism and is ready to receive their first initiation. This is usually a ritual, similar to the one I performed with the Pueblo Nación Muisca-Chibcha, which to the best of my knowledge was a slightly modified version of the first chamber rite of passage in gnosis.
As I narrated in the episode about my rite of passage, an initiatory ritual is a very powerful act of psychodrama and it is designed so that the initiate feels that they have been reborn, that they are no longer the same, and also that usually, one of the parts of the rite consists of making vows of loyalty to the group, offering one's life to the cause or even more detailed and onerous promises such as tithing one's entire life, handing over property or unconditional obedience.
When a person has invested many weeks or months, effort and dedication in a goal, it is unlikely they will back down when they are on the verge of crossing it, so on the other side they will be waiting with a pot of boiled water to put them to cook and pour it down their throat.
After the rite of passage, the initiate is no longer just another of the bunch. Now they are a chosen one and they are ready to receive the supreme knowledge. Then the masters or the more advanced initiates let loose the perfect marriage and detail the techniques to perform sexual magic as it should be done. If you don't have a partner, don't worry: the community will get you one. This is something grandfather Suagagua told me himself: if the initiate has no companion, the priests can ask some man or woman of the group to “teach” the technique to the novice, although it is not uncommon that the priest himself offers to do the task, especially when the one being initiated is a woman and, if possible, to his liking.
This is already kept under the strictest secrecy and I declare at once that I did not come to belong to that circle in Pueblo Nación Muisca-Chibcha, although I do have the suspicion that grandfather entrusted a lady from the community with fulfilling that function with me, despite being married to Paula, since the young woman in question suddenly appeared in my life declaring her love and respect for Paula as "the elder."
I also learned from grandfather that in his time it was common for couples practicing sexual magic to occasionally perform the practice in front of their elders, so that these could endorse or correct the work they were doing.
The sexual abuses by Gnostic leaders against women who have gone through the洗脑 (brainwashing) I've described as part of the initiatic process are one more page in the ignominy of my country and surely in most countries where Gnostic groups exist. But even if these abuses never occur, sexual magic represents a huge danger for those of us who have fallen into the nets of these sects.
In a manner similar to what happens with astral projection, part of the problem with sexual magic is that it carries a dose of reality. As I've said, sexual magic is based on tantra, which is an ancient wisdom sharing the same foundations as the sahaja maithuna of Samael: avoiding ejaculation, containing orgasm and transmuting sexual energy to energize the chakras of the energetic body.
However, tantra mentions nothing about flaming swords or ego annihilation nor does it have problems with diverse sexual practices including masturbation. In fact, it promotes masturbation — or better let's call it self-love — to learn the technique correctly.

The truth is that if you follow the instructions correctly, not Samael's because they are tremendously imprecise and confusing, but rather those of a tantric master like Mantak Chia, you can indeed achieve effects such as more lasting erections, overcoming premature ejaculation, having multiple orgasms without ejaculating and much more intense and prolonged orgasms than traditional ones. Many people even claim to achieve altered states of consciousness and sensations of unity with the universe or with their partner.
If someone who practices gnosis, in addition to achieving astral projection, comes to experience some of these mystical effects during sex, it's most likely that they will reaffirm everything Samael says about sacred sex: that through it they are annihilating egos, healing themselves of diseases and other things. But the most dangerous part is that they come to believe, with absolute certainty, that if they fail in the work — meaning ejaculating by mistake, or letting themselves be carried away by passion, or forgetting meditation or the mantra — then the fateful consequences Samael describes will come true: illnesses, loss of home, loss of all spiritual work achieved, demonic possessions or even death.
So the initiate gradually and without realizing it fills up with all that garbage of mystical illusions, fears, and conflicts. Not to mention that despite avoiding ejaculation being less difficult than one might think, the fact of having to contain it always, always, is a pressure that builds up in the mind. Moreover, according to Samaelian doctrine, sexual practice must be performed daily and last at least one hour. For many couples — and especially for women — this is an inappropriate pressure and above all an invasion into something so intimate. I know of many Gnostic women with problems of infections, irritation and other vaginal issues.
Aun Weor called sexual magic "the path of the razor's edge" and the truth is that phrase describes very well what it feels like to follow the gnosis path. Sex is a very large part in most people's lives and the Samaelian restrictions don't apply only to ejaculation but also to masturbation, pornography, desiring other women, looking with lust — not to even mention the tragedy a Gnostic person living through if they have homosexual thoughts or a gender identity different from their birth.
The hope that sustains a Gnostic is that as they annihilate egos and advance on the path, things will get easier, temptations will fade. But that never comes, for the simple reason that human instinctive forces are neither egos nor demons, nor do they get annihilated in any way. The most you can achieve is repress them, but as Catholic priests know very well, repression usually brings about real evils with which people eventually vent.
Having gone through that crucifixion, I can assure you that the path of the razor's edge is walked barefoot and always ends in failure. If Samael Aun Weor himself in 1972, at age 55, was terrified by his sexual failures yet optimistic about achieving liberation with the Arcanum AZF, what can a beginner expect? Nature is not an enemy but as my teacher Mara says, nature has no morality. Sexual energy moves us to ensure that life continues thriving and cares little for our intentions of spiritual revolution.
However — and I hope this message reaches someone thinking about abandoning that path of suffering that gnosis is: failing at gnosis is succeeding in life. I remember a Muisca grandfather once telling me that when he fell, meaning when he failed to maintain ejaculation control, he had lost everything: money, his home, his family. That was one of the testimonies that resonated deeply in my mind and began to exacerbate a permanent state of latent anxiety.
When faced with deciding between my mental health and liberation from the wheel of samsara, I chose to trust my skeptical instinct and recognize the enormous contradictions I saw in gnosis, the poor coherence of the Gnostic "masters" I knew, and the total lack of scientific evidence for all Gnostic claims. I sent the perfect marriage to hell and decided to stay with one that was imperfect but peaceful.
I must say there were never any negative consequences of that decision. Quite the contrary — my mental peace eventually returned, my relationship with Paula improved to levels we could never reach within gnosis, our economic prosperity and health arrived, and our greatest joy, our children, came after I left gnosis. The detoxification process from Gnostic garbage was not easy or quick, but I'll tell that in detail in another episode.
The judge who ruled on the Olga Herrera case found no grounds to associate the murder of little Verónica with gnosis nor to connect the case to the girl's father. I'm not a lawyer nor do I know Spanish law, but what I do believe is that gnosis had a lot to do with the tragedy. Based on my knowledge of gnosis and my personal experience, I'll try to complete the story of that unfortunate family to show — if not what really happened, then what could potentially happen in a similar case when misfortune conspires so that everything that could go wrong, goes wrong:
I don't know how long Olga and Rafael had been in gnosis before the Santiago de Compostela events, but I suppose it would have been a couple of years, at most three. Most people leave gnosis after a few years when they get tired of fighting their own nature, or when they realize the inconsistencies of the leaders, or when they become victims of abuse, or simply when they see that the promises of peace, happiness and prosperity never arrive.
During those years, Olga and Rafael were indoctrinated in sexual magic and about the supposed dangers associated with ejaculating, having sex outside a Gnostic couple, and conceiving through ejaculation. In Chapter V of the Yellow Book, Samael says the following about the procreation process:
"Nine months of preparation are required — nine months of chastity, holiness, meditation — before carrying out the secret act with the husband.
The future father of the child must also not be a fornicator. He must abstain for nine months. He and she should only pray much to the Divine Mother, asking her the joy of having as their son a Great Master.
The spouses must not eat meats. The spouses must be vegetarians. The spouses must be chaste in thought, word, and deed.
The sacred copulation is carried out in Spring during the month of flowers, May. In the month of May, Buddha descends to bless humanity.
The act must be performed on a Friday at dawn. At that hour the morning star vibrates intensely.
The couple must withdraw from the act without having ejaculated the seminal liquor. The Lunar hierarchies know how to use a male gamete and a maternal ovum to make the womb fertile. (…)
Thus come into the world the children of Wisdom. This is the creator system of Kriya-Shakti.
With this Ancient system lost in the night of centuries, every Yogi couple could provide a physical vehicle for any of the Great Masters of the venerable White Lodge."
"Seminal ejaculation is a Crime. Seminal ejaculation is brutal fornication. The ancient Paradisiac reproduction system was carried out without seminal ejaculation in man, and without female orgasm.
The terrifying lucifers of the ancient Lunar earth taught man seminal ejaculation. Then he lost his powers. This is represented by the expulsion from Eden. (…)
It's horrifying to know that the terrifying Bonzes of the Dag Dugpa Clan, dedicated to horrible and fatal Tantrism, ejaculate the seminal liquor during their practices of Black Magic.
The spilled semen and then absorbed in the Feminine Womb is horribly recharged with atoms of the secret enemy, satanic atoms gathered from the very atomic hells of human beings. The inevitable result of this Tantrism is the descent of the serpent downward, toward the atomic abysses,
It would not be surprising then that Rafael was likely suggestible given this preparation for conceiving a child. From my experience, men who fall into gnosis become much more obsessed and alienated than women, and often end up dumping our frustrations on them.
When I was at Pueblo Nación Muisca-Chibcha, grandmother Yanguma, wife of grandfather Suagagua, frequently urged women to "do the work well in bed," controlling the man and helping him with the technique. She said that just like when boiling milk spills from the pot, the blame falls on whoever is holding the lid.
For a woman like Olga Herrera, who apparently had a tendency toward some kind of mental illness, this pressure combined with the desire to have a child, love for her partner and loyalty to the sect, led to some kind of crisis when she fled from her home without direction. Was she escaping a marriage that gnosis had already destroyed? Or was she running from guilt?
In the midst of her flight she realizes that anxiety and dark thoughts not only don't disappear but become more intense. The obsession with Gnostic sexuality that twists what is natural and beautiful about sex surely caused in Olga, who also had a strong maternal instinct, an anxiety crisis compounded by guilt for having abandoned her family.
Physically freed but increasingly confused emotionally, Olga returns to Rafael trying to reconcile in her head the hell she was living through with the sense of guilt she probably carried for fleeing and for yielding to natural sexuality that Samael so detested.
Under those conditions, only a woman could imagine what a pregnancy might have meant. Was it Rafael's child, who contained ejaculation? Or was it from that abuser who instead had no hesitation in abusing her reproductive life as well?
I picture Olga quietly consulting with Gnostic leaders, other women in the organization, and rereading Samael's books searching for hope, an encouraging word, an opportunity for her and little Verónica growing in her womb. But what I'm certain of is that the response she got was not one of comfort.
With all this, months after the girl's birth, Rafael — who had already expressed uncertainty about being the father — perhaps suggested spending the couple's savings on a trip to Santiago de Compostela to try to save their relationship. But perhaps also convinced that Verónica was evil incarnate and needed to be purged.
A person with a mental illness can be much more vulnerable to becoming a victim of manipulation, and we don't know if Rafael — interested in getting rid of a girl he didn't consider his daughter and possibly a carrier of evil — helped enable that manipulation. It could have been a Gnostic priest, a convoy of spiritual authorities who told him what to do.
In any case, whatever motivated Olga to place her hands on the face of her baby and take her life by smothering her was horrible sectarian manipulation based on unfounded theories, medieval dogmas and spiritualist speculations. When the English arrived at Olga's room,
However, justice — inexperienced in these esoteric and religious matters — chose to judge the case as a product of a mental health crisis rather than as murder, which in my opinion could have been planned. The end of this story has not yet been written, and out there are thousands of people, families who are living through similar situations right now.
If you're involved in gnosis or any of the movements that discreetly promote the teachings of Samael Aun Weor, I invite you to visit the following links where you can find more information about the contradictions, lies and plagiarism of Samael Aun Weor:
You can also contact me through my social media or write to me on Telegram and I'll gladly try to guide you in the best way possible. See you next week.
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0 Reply Andrea Toro T 4 years ago Manu, as always it's a pleasure to hear all that you know, excellent start and end to a passionate story, well done and above all genuine, it reminded me of many things like the interview we did for university about
0 Reply manuelr Author Reply to Andrea Toro T 4 years ago You heard it! Thank you so much for your friendship and your lovely comments. A colorful hug for you!
0 Reply Carlos 4 years ago I've read the published stories and in most of them the concepts of what gnosis is are always twisted — this could be due to bad experiences or simply a lack of understanding of it. If one were to understand each of the concepts correctly, many things would change. The problem isn't gnosis itself but rather how people practice it and the personality of those who teach it.
15 Reply Laura 4 years ago Hi, how do I find you on Telegram?
0 Reply manuelr Author Reply to Laura 4 years ago Hello Laura! You can add me through this link: https://t.me/manuelricardo
0 Reply Luis Alexander 4 years ago Bad experiences are common and it's obvious that everywhere there are good people and bad people, and gnosis is no exception... Gnosis isn't to blame for the abuse of fanatics who exist everywhere. I'm sorry for your bad experience but I must tell you that some things need to be clarified about how the movement operates.
6 Reply Laura 4 years ago Hi Manuel, I have a family member who's involved in gnosis. In the family she says without any problem that she's a practitioner of gnosis, but she keeps it totally secret regarding her rituals, "studies," etc. I'm afraid she's wasting her life and resources in this sect.
I'm scared by the false spirituality she displays. She talks about ego, about being humble... But in reality she shows that she believes herself to be chosen, and she's increasingly absent from reality and from her own family.
What could I do about it to open her eyes?
Thank you for your testimonies. You've helped me open my eyes.
0 Reply manuelr Author Reply to Laura 4 years ago Hello Laura! Thanks for your comment. I understand your concern about your family, but unfortunately not much can be known without asking the person involved directly.
My advice would be that you don't judge or criticize their activities. On the contrary, try to earn her trust, listen and show interest in what she tells you.
In most cases I've encountered, people who enter gnosis are looking for a personal connection, someone they can trust. So if you can provide that possibility, maybe she'll tell you what she really does and give you a chance to advise her.
A hug and the best of luck with your family member.
1 Reply alejandro Reply to Laura 4 years ago Hello, you can't believe everyone who writes on the internet — you don't know anything about Manuel. Anyone can write online and give their opinion about something, and that doesn't mean they're writing the truth. Manuel is not a Gnostic, and his opinion is like that of someone who has never been inside. What you see here is the opinion of someone who was hurt by bad experiences within the movement.
3 Reply Tao es vida, gnosis conocimiento Reply to Laura 3 years ago Demon, you know you're violating consciousness speaking ill of a being so noble, chaste and pure-hearted as Samael is. Repent and stop mixing things up.
0 Reply manuelr Author Reply to Tao es vida, gnosis conocimiento 3 years ago The way you address people says a lot about the creed you preach. Greetings!
0 Reply Mel Reply to manuelr 2 years ago Well no, I don't see that you replied to those two Gnostic people who gave their arguments and didn't offend you in any way — you only replied to the last one who offended you. I would be interested in your response to the others.
0 Reply Ysis 4 years ago Hello, I'm Chilean and I met Marisol. I was born into a Gnostic family and she was a Gnostic from as long as I can remember when I attended the IGA (Institute of Gnostic Anthropology). I'm 23 years old, and I met her at age 5 or 6; she attended the Concha y Toro metro Repülő station branch.
1 Reply Jessy 4 years ago How was the detoxification process?
0 Reply manuelr Author Reply to Jessy 4 years ago Hi Jessy, soon I'll share that process in detail in a couple of upcoming episodes. For now I can tell you that it's important to have an anchor to reality, someone or something that works as a grounding pole. In my case, that grounding pole was my family, meditation and science. I had to stop my esoteric readings and practices completely and focus on what indisputably makes part of reality: breathing, nature, work, the most important personal relationships. One of the problems of Gnosis is that it fills your head with fears that have no real foundation. Little by little you have to go challenging those fears, step by step, while you understand that all those fears were always a deception… Well, I hope I can contribute more very soon!
2 Reply antropia 4 years ago To me, gnosis, the millennial knowledge, has saved my life. Greetings to everyone.
2 Reply Geocarpas 4 years ago I don't really know how to qualify you.. really ignorance is bold, you think you're doing damage to the Teaching left by the Avatara Samael… well you're wrong, in every second of your existence you sink more into the mud of your stinking word.. if you didn't understand the knowledge, or it bored you to start your path, that's your problem.. remember that gnosis is for a few… you set out to transcribe paragraphs from the works of the avatara.. for what…?? The one who looks bad is you… Gnosis is no Sect, it is the Primitive Christian Church… you devote time to talking badly of gnosis and criticizing it.. and when are you going to criticize and talk badly of Catholicism and of all those PEDERAST priests and bishops….???? If your intention is to damage the image of gnosis… you waste your time.. regarding the case of that crime, criminal responsibility is personal.. the institution has nothing to do with that.. surely those people hadn't understood even 1% of the teaching.. and you're going down the same path.. understanding nothing, practicing nothing.. and you come out talking badly of gnosis saying everything is a lie.. when the one with the problem is you..... I said it..
2 Reply manuelr Author Reply to Geocarpas 4 years ago In one thing you're right esteemed Pitter: Gnosis is primitive
1 Reply Esmeralda 4 years ago I grew up in a gnostic family, when I grew up I was trained to be a gnostic missionary and I was opening schools and giving the teachings for more than 10 years as a gnostic instructor, until 7 years ago when I couldn't take it anymore and I resigned, and it's true that the detoxification process is slow and the damage is a lot, there are many things that I learned that I still do but not everything just as I was given it, now I really kept only what works for me, because by studying my life I can see a lot of manipulation and abuse of power, now that I have a daughter I realize of the enormous damage that a badly led spiritual organization can do and I would never subject her to what I lived, fortunately my husband went through the same as me and he has been my anchor to reality as you rightly say and he helped me take off that blindfold that I had and wouldn't let me live well.
0 Reply manuelr Author Reply to Esmeralda 4 years ago Thanks for sharing your experience. Surely it will help many people who are beginning to have doubts about their faith and noticing the manipulation, the deception and the unfulfillment of so many false promises. A hug!
0 Reply Miguel 4 years ago What a shame that so much lies and twisting is said here but well, it's true that there are people who have badmouthed gnosis but it's not the fault of Gnosis nor of Samael, it's obvious that they've never meditated, used the energy correctly and a thousand things, how badly gnosis is interpreted here, what a shame but it's true, gnosis is, it's like true Christianity, Jesus was killed, and his own people persecuted him, the truth is not accepted by the masses, only a few practice and understand it, the rest wanders around like this page defaming without having been disciplined enough to verify things in depth, the intellect deceives, I have practiced everything I know what is possible and I'm not out here wanting to lie down with the people who enter gnosis, that is not clearly taught, nothing was understood but well when we're dead we'll prove it in the end greetings. I could say a thousand things that are wrong on this page because I have made it a point to understand gnosis with practice, and I have understood that it is the same as what is taught in other religions just as it isn't said here but well each one with their understanding.
1 Reply manuelr Author Reply to Miguel 4 years ago Hi Friend, thanks for your comment. Go ahead and point out what you consider to be a lie, twisting or error in the article. It would be interesting to debate. Greetings!
1 Reply James Cruz Reply to Miguel 4 years ago “What did sex have to do with the martyrdoms of his illness?”
Easy: Suffering occurs because of ignorance, ignorance is the ego, the origin of the ego is in fornication.
0 Reply manuelr Author Reply to James Cruz 4 years ago “The origin of the ego is in fornication”… No, neither from the psychological point of view, nor the neurological, nor the philosophical. “Suffering occurs because of ignorance”… It's a statement that's too generalized, it can be so but not always nor for all people. “Ignorance is the ego”… The definitions of ignorance and of ego don't even remotely resemble each other. The problem with many esoterists and the gnostics in particular is that they swallow some concepts without any foundation and then repeat them like mantras as if by repeating them enough they would become true.
0 Reply James Cruz Reply to manuelr 4 years ago “The problem with many esoterists and the gnostics in particular is that they swallow some concepts without any foundation and then repeat them like mantras as if by repeating them enough they would become true”.
Another way to say it in esoteric terms would be: “The problem with many esoterists and the gnostics in particular is that they don't realize that the first center that has to be balanced is the lower intellectual center, one has to learn to think”
And I don't deny it to you, for now I don't know how to think well. Anyway the solution to the problem that you raise is easy: We must clarify the meaning of such concepts to avoid as much as possible any misinterpretation while we extract greater utility from them.
For example, the concepts of 'Wheel of Samsara', 'Death' and what 'The essence or divine spark' is are part of what keeps me here writing. If I thought that when one dies it's the definitive end, I would have such a logic that existence for me would make no sense and I would think that living isn't worth it.
But for now I think: “I can't escape”, “I have to face the situation, rescue the wisdom and transcend, self-realize”.
What's your opinion regarding such concepts? Do you think that my interpretation of them causes more damage than help? Would you consider it necessary to make some clarification?
Or else you would tell me: I agree with the concepts of death that Samael shared, especially psychological death, and I think that you should put it into practice right now and stop discussing about matters that -no matter what I or anyone thinks- are more real than who knows what, depending on their merits each one can verify and doubting of such things is proper of the foolish, the mad.
0 Reply manuelr Author Reply to James Cruz 4 years ago Hi Friend, thanks for your reflection. You suggest that the solution to the problem I see in so many esoterists and gnostics is to clarify the meaning of the concepts. I suppose you refer to fornication, ego, ignorance and suffering. If you've seen my previous episodes, you'll have noticed that I often go to dictionary or Wikipedia definitions, always clarifying that there isn't a single definition and that any definition is by default arbitrary. However, I like to go to etymology, that is to the linguistic origin of words. Let's take as an example “fornicate”: if you search in Google “origin of the word fornicate” you'll find this result from the magazine Muy Interesante.
There it says that it comes from “fornix” which were places like the underside of bridges or alleys where the prostitutes were found, so to fornicate was the act of having sexual relations with prostitutes in those places. One could then generalize that to fornicate is to pay for sex or to have sex as a commercial exchange. The gnostics made up that to fornicate is to spill the semen, be it as it may. Now, independently of the label of fornication, fall, crime or whatever else being attributed to ejaculation, what is truly important is to ask oneself critically if it makes any sense that a totally natural process be labeled immoral or dangerous, not only of the man but of almost all animals, with which life moreover is recreated.
If the answer is yes, then one has to look at the PROOFS of those negative effects: clinical studies, representative samplings, experiments, field observation, etcetera. If the only evidence is that it's written in some book or that some leader says it, well, then there's no proof that holds, the only thing you have to know is that there are hundreds of sacred books and hundreds of religious leaders. Are you sure that the one you chose is the one that has the only truth? Isn't it quite a coincidence that it's precisely one that was born close to where you were born or that was brought by those who colonized the land of your ancestors? Or that it spoke your same language or was translated into your tongue? Well, with such questions the liberation of the soul begins.
0 Reply James Cruz Reply to manuelr 4 years ago My love, in the name of consciousness I was writing you something super nice and reasonable but I got bored and I deleted everything.
Now forget about James Cruz.
Let me introduce myself: I am Yahvéh, Lucifer, or also better known among the most intellectual circle of people of your era as “The god of money”.
And from the bottom of my heart I tell you: “Thanks, you're doing very well!”
Please keep distracting and encouraging the mass to expel sexual energy, you don't know how much that helps me to keep all of humanity in perpetual slavery, in the darkness, as I like n_n
That crazy man Samael Aun Güeior for a moment worried me o_o' But the truth is that the Wheel of Samsara is super mega accelerated thanks to the law of the pendulum that for now favors me and more and more sparks fall into the abyss without realizing it.
“Poooore little ones hahaha!” Simply they're just not up to it xD, mere bobs, they let themselves be tempted muuuuy easily :v
But with you I'll make an exception because I like you n_n jeje
And I'll give you a tip: Mantralize, meditate, practice sex well or badly, escape for a while to the seventh or sixth dimension and experience heaven. None of that matters because as one of your little sisters rightly noticed:
“Many philosophers frequently imply that moral maturity is a solution to our poverty of spirit. However, it is incomplete to argue in favor of improved morality merely through personal growth and greater empathy. It is not enough to ‘change oneself’. From a systems perspective, we cannot rationally conclude that an ideal moral compass can be fostered or perpetuated in a socioeconomic condition that does not reward it. People normally can only walk against the current for a certain time, no matter how strong their convictions are. Humans are too vulnerable to the pressures in their environment. Without the change in the social structure to directly embrace our idealized moral advances, little progress can be expected. The fact is that no matter how moral we think we are or how moral we think the world could be, the structural fanaticism inherent to the logic of the market will always press against our best, undermining integrity, feeding this poverty of spirit implacably”.
Moreover it seems that you're beginning to understand that misery is an exquisite delight. That pleases me, you would be a great black magician n_n “But well!”
See you later! “And looong live egoi-ismmmm!” n_n
0 Reply manuelr Author Reply to James Cruz 4 years ago Very creative your comment and useful to illustrate the modus operandi of gnosis: indoctrinate with a black-and-white good/evil duality where what doesn't correspond to the gnostic doctrine is evil. Moreover, reducing something so complex as the realization of the Being to ejaculate or not ejaculate. Life is much more complex, broad and interesting than a bundle of rules that have to be complied to the letter.
Thanks for taking the time to share your vision about the sect.
0 Reply Héctor 4 years ago I don't know what sect you entered disguised as GNOSIS, the true gnosis doesn't commit you to anything nor to give tithes. I've been there 30 years and they don't force you to the sexual practices as you refer to, much less to share donate or something of that style some property. All the books are allowed to you to read from the moment you are initiated. The way you describe the place where you used to go is literally satanic, something that Samael abhorred. He in other videos and audios that I don't think you've listened to, mentions that he was still an imperfect human in search of the self-realization of the superman and that his purpose was to make known the christic teachings. He never felt immortal and those who continue with the true doctrine are not in any way as you describe. I deeply regret that you entered the wrong place and that indeed there are many sects in the name of a GNOSIS. This is the same as the Christian religion, in your house you can make a Christian temple feel like a pastor but likewise they delude you commit you hook you and sink you. Evil is more in the sight of human eyes than good, so one must walk on p.lomo feet with any doctrine that you wish to inquire into even the Catholic one.
0 Reply manuelr Author Reply to Héctor 4 years ago From what you recount, perhaps you found a little harmful group but thousands of people haven't had that luck and have required intense therapies to overcome the trauma that gnosis leaves them. Samael was very contradictory so surely you'll find that he said what you refer to, but also what I shared in the article. If you need reference, I put the sources in each part of the article where I used them. As for being forced, perhaps very few sect leaders “force” their victims to do something. What they do is manipulate them so they believe they're doing it of their own will. If they convince you that if you don't do something specific, then you're going to be condemned, you won't be able to achieve anything you set out to or that you'll lose your family, your life or your soul, believe me that you'll run to do it without thinking. Thanks for sharing your opinion!
0 Reply JULIO ROJAS 4 years ago One feels throughout the writing a preparatory environment for you to defend your own weakness, that weakness he finally confessed in the following paragraph: “But where Samael focused his flaming sword furiously was on all non-traditional sexual conduct. All members of the LGTBI+ community and people with fluid or diverse gender were for him ‘infrasexuals’ condemned irremediably to the flames of the infernal worlds. Even the practitioners of the innocent and healthy masturbation” Evidently you couldn't fight against your own infrasexuality and defeated by your own failure you have decided to attack gnosis bringing by a hair a matter as lamentable as the murder of your own daughter committed by a poor mother with mental problems. I answer you to your writing in the following way: Calm down sir, surrendered to the sphere of Lilih, keep militating in your infrasexual lodge that they've taken to calling “LGTB and defend it, because although you keep spreading manipulations and discharging your frustration against the teachings, they will still be there, and you will still be judged by your own inner truth. In the case of gnosis the one who enters, does so voluntarily and so does the one who leaves, and only those who are not in the mood to conquer themselves and follow the path of self-realization will lend an ear to your justifications. A hug..
1 Reply manuelr Author Reply to JULIO ROJAS 4 years ago Hi don Julio, thanks for taking the time to read my writing, which by the way wasn't created to convince those who choose to believe in the fantasies of gnosis or any other creed. Considering that what you call “infrasexual” is everything that nature has created through millions of years of evolution, that propagates life, produces pleasure and reflects love, well I'm not uncomfortable at all being categorized as “infrasexual”. What you should bear in mind is that the space for denigrating and discriminating by sexual orientation or identity, is coming to an end in the democratic world of law. That discrimination and attacks against LGBTI+ people that before was seen as part of freedom of creed, today is recognized as a crime, just as the emotional manipulation techniques that you usually use such as threatening with hells and condemnations to those who don't obey your regressive norms (Yes, even if they say that each one is free and bla-bla-bla.
0 Reply JULIO ROJAS Reply to manuelr 4 years ago Good morning. Thanks for confirming your militancy in defense of the LGTB groups. In the same way that being alert we could decipher in your writing that sympathy, from your response we can deduce two matters: 1- When you call “fantasies” to the gnostic knowledge and to the religious beliefs and doubt of the existence of the infernal worlds, you seem a follower of atheist Materialism, that set of philosophical positions that deny the existence of God and of the spiritual world and that like you, prefer to repeat again and again the chorus of ‘what nature has created’, denying the divine function in the creation of the universe. 2- In your response you define infrasexuality in the following way: “infrasexual” is everything that nature has created through millions of years of evolution, that propagates life, produces pleasure and reflects love'.
With all respect, although you call the gnostic beliefs fantasies, what you just wrote, that is a fantasy. The sexual relations of man with man and female with female don't create life and don't reflect any love as you say, the only thing they reflect is lust and degeneration. I understand that you consider the truth to be different from this and that you use your energies in attacking gnosis whose doctrine puts the finger on the wound of your inner world., but those of us who have decided to follow the path of the true gnosis, don't need to impose our agenda on others and go around propagandizing like the LGTB groups that you defend do. Nor do we feel discriminated by whoever says what they want, as the LGTB groups that you defend do, who have reached the point of typifying as “crime” that one be told that that is sodomy and infrasexuality. That is the “democratic” world they want to impose. If the gnostics the system of “justice, is going to persecute us for telling people the messages of the master Samael, it won't be the first time in the history of centuries. Within you is your real being. To that one my being salutes. Peace in the heart.
0 Reply manuelr Author Reply to JULIO ROJAS 4 years ago Man, matters of religion can't be debated because the facts and the evidence is not relevant for the believers. My blog is called “Spirituality and Science” precisely because it isn't based on “sacred” scriptures nor mystic revelations but on contrasted and corroborated evidence, in addition to unquestionable personal experiences. Within that framework, there's nothing that validates the discriminatory and regressive postures of you gnostics. Do you know who did validate them? Adolf Hitler. Happy Sunday
0 Reply Mel Reply to manuelr 2 years ago Spirituality and science??? Very paradoxical.
0 Reply Luis Reply to JULIO ROJAS 3 years ago Mr. Julio, my respects to you. You found the weak flank and it makes all sense. Thanks for sharing your intelligence. Greetings from gnosis Brazil. Hugs
0 Reply J.M. 3 years ago it's sad how this young man is talking about something that he doesn't understand and pretends to understand everything about the sayings of others but nothing really is lived by himself only are experiences of others when he said that he had experience of himself, well what a sadness because this young man burned himself and because of another forever of truly knowing what the stories of others are and his lack of information caused him a total brainwashing of the exponent of this audio.
0 Reply manuelr Author Reply to J.M. 3 years ago It's understandable that you think it's so, but in case you didn't read the whole article or my other episodes: I belonged to a gnostic group for almost 4 years, in addition to reading and practicing a good number of Samael's books, including Perfect Marriage, The Secret Doctrine of Anahuac, The Three Mountains, The Mystery of the Golden Blossom, Treatise of Occult Medicine and Practical Magic, Fiery Rose and Treatise of Sexual Alchemy. Something I can indeed credit Samael for, he gave his books very good names! Hug
0 Reply Eugenio 3 years ago Hi I study gnosis in the quetzalcoatl cultural institute In part you're right
Poryue it's very evident that samael copied hermetism rosaxruz gurdjieff fourth path but it has given me an introduction to study also takes much much from the book dogma and ritual of high magic
But to alía this Gurdjieff liked money a lot Uspensky se became beeb or strong and before dying said vnborren all Blavatski the controversy co. The mahatma Eliphas Levy who was a great cabalistic priest expelled him. And even osho bought his rolls royce the eOteriznl is interpretation and many people are not prepared for that and should not really know these teachings the book parsifal revealed intruduccion to the gnosis and Qluimi sexual I've read them and I understand them because I know where they came from from any way samael is not the Gnosis gnosis exists but one has to know how to find it within oneself and have a great criterion open mind to enter gnostic esotericism Saludis
1 Reply Mel Reply to Eugenio 2 years ago And now, are you still in the gnosis?
In some way gnosis also invites you to know more and I think one decides what to follow.. The important thing I think, is to rescue from each thing what serves one, what is valid for one. For me, it has led me to delve into other things and to learn and investigate.. always questioning everything.
And I firmly believe that all fanaticism is bad, one cannot absolutely believe “in something”. No one has the absolute truth. The religions themselves are not absolutely pure; Buddhism comes from Hinduism; Christianity and Islam, from Judaism..gnosis, from all the previous ones. And in the end, if we're not fanatics nor do we become slaves of some current, we'll find our true spirituality. That one that it won't be necessary to share with words with anyone, because our deeds and our way of being, will speak for it.
At least, that's what I'm learning…
1 Reply manuelr Author Reply to Mel 2 years ago Hi Mel, I agree with you, that's why my warnings about Gnosis are centered on the institutions and not on the knowledge itself. To me, some books of Samael still seem entertaining and even culturally relevant to me, but because I already went through the process of believing that they were something more than religious fiction and giving them an importance that they don't warrant. I believe that no religion is good, but in the end they are necessary, or rather they were necessary for humanity, but nowadays they should already be on the way out. They are not required to form a social ethics, nor to give purpose to existence. That's why I chose and suggest the path of science along with true spirituality as an alternative path. Greetings!
0 Reply Lisa 3 years ago To what extent is a personality cult rendered to the personality of Samael more than to the teachings? The personality cult is the main trait of sects and dictatorships.
Moreover, Samael, etymologically, means poison of God. Doesn't that tell you something?
0 Reply manuelr Author Reply to Lisa 3 years ago Thanks for your contribution Lisa. It's true, it can also be translated from Hebrew as “Blindness of God”
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Muchas gracias por la información, tengo poco de haber entrado a LA GNOSIS, vivo en Canada, después de haber leído esto, la verdad ya no me quedan ganas de regresar!!! Mil gracias <3<3<3
Gracias a ti por leerme. Un abrazo y que tu búsqueda espiritual siga por sendas de sabiduría y libertad!
Manu, cómo siempre es un agrado escuchar todo lo que hay en tú saber, excelente incio y fin de un relato apasionante, bien logrado y sobre todo genuino, tan real, me hiciste acordar de muchas cosas como la entrevista que te hicimos para la universidad sobre el Cerro de Juaica. Saber cómo fue todo lo de viaje a Note América, siempre te seguí por Redes sociales cada uno de esos procesos. Desde de que te conocí siempre supe que eres un alma bonita cargada de mucha información que viene a enseñarnos, cuanto aprendizaje hoy. Gracias, gracias, gracias! Abrazo inmenso buen camino y buena brisa.
Ya lo escuchaste! Muchas gracias por tu amistad y tus lindos comentarios. Un abrazo de colores para ti!
He leído los relatos publicados y en la mayoría de los cuales siempre se logra tergiversar los conceptos de lo que es gnosis, puede ser por las malas experiencias o simplemente por la falta de comprensión de la misma, si se llegará a comprender cada uno de los conceptos se daría cuenta que ninguno se contradice y al contrario uno es consecuente del otro y viceversa, es entendible que existan presiones emocionales y psicológicas, la misma enseñanza indica que no es para personas viciosas, con problemas mentales porque no es ayuda psicológica o emocional la que se brinda, tampoco afirma que será un camino de felicidad y tranquilidad como asevera en sus relatos sino de una lucha continúa con uno mismo. Todos tenemos libre de expresión y libre pensamiento y cada quien puede creer o no en las creencias que le parezcan convenientes y siempre existe la conciencia que si la escuchamos nos dirá lo conveniente o no para si mismo. Utilizar su posición para tratar de desacreditar una enseñanza tergiversando cada uno de sus conceptos es un acto repulsivo.
Buenas como te encuentro en telegram?
Hola Laura! Puedes agregarme a través de este link: https://t.me/manuelricardo
Las malas experiencias son comunes y es obvio que en todas partes hay personas buenas y malas y la gnosis no es la excepción… La gnosis no es culpable del abuso de los fanaticos que no faltan en todas partes. Lamento su mala experiencia pero debo decirle que se debe a que nunca llego a comprende realmente la enseñanza. Saludos.
Hola Manuel, Tengo un familiar que está metida en la gnosis. En la familia ella dice sin problema que es practicante de la gnosis, pero lo lleva con total secretismo en cuanto a sus ritos, "estudios", etc. Me temo que está gastando su vida y sus recursos en esa secta. Ya ha viajado dos veces a Sudamérica por motivos que aún no sabemos con total claridad, siempre escondiendolo como un voluntariado... Crees que hay alguna manera de saber qué puede estar pasando? Me asusta la falsa espiritualidad que muestra. Habla del ego, de ser humilde... Pero realmente me muestra que cree ser una elegida, y cada vez está más ausente de la realidad y de su propia familia. Qué podría hacer yo al respecto para abrirle los ojos? Gracias por tus testimonios. Me has ayudado a abrir los ojos. Laura.
Hola Laura! Gracias por tu comentario. Comprendo tu preocupación por tu familia pero lamentablemente no es mucho lo que se puede saber que no sea preguntando directamente a la persona involucrada. Mi consejo sería que no juzgues ni critiques sus actividades. Por el contrario, trata de ganar su confianza, escuchar e interesarte por lo que te cuente. En la mayoría de casos que he conocido, la gente que entra en la gnosis busca una conexión personal, alguien en quien confiar, así que si puedes brindarle esa posibilidad, a lo mejor te cuente lo que hace realmente y te de chance de aconsejarle. Un abrazo y la mejor de las suertes con tu familiar. Manuel
Hola, no puedes creer a todo el que escribe en internet, no sabes nada de Manuel ,cualquiera puede escribir en la red y dar su opinión de algo, y eso no quiere decir que esta escribiendo la verdad, Manuel no es Gnóstico, y su opinión es como la de cualquier persona que no es gnóstica, mi persona practica la gnosis desde hace mas de 20 años, y mi experiencia, es que Manuel dice cosas que nos son correctas, a nadie se le obliga lo que tiene que hacer y practicar, no es para nada negocio, y tiene un parte de sus enseñanzas que son publicas, otras que son mas secretas, no por que son malas, sino porque no se esta preparado para saberlas, sin un conocimiento previo, con el tiempo, me convertí en instructor gnóstico y lo sigo siendo, y te confirmo que no nada de control psicológico, ni explotación económica, lo que busca la gnosis, es llegar a un perfeccionamiento espiritual, y es muy difícil dar una explicación si no se es gnóstico, no busca perjudicar a nadie, porque se respeta el libre albedrio, y se conocen las leyes del karma, no podemos hacer ningún mal a nadie, porque sabemos como actúa esta ley, que lo que hagas se te regresa multiplicado, haz el bien y recibirás el bien, haz el mal y se te regresara el mal, así de simple.
demonio, sabes que estás violando conciencia al hablar mal de un ser tan noble, casto, y puro de corazón como lo es Samael. arrepientete y deja de mezclar las cosas.
Tú forma de dirigirte a las personas dice mucho del credo que predicas. Saludos!
No pero, yo no veo que hayas respondido a las dos personas gnósticas que te dan sus argumentos y que no te ofenden en nada, solo le respondiste a esa última que te ofendió. A mí me interesaría tu respuesta a los otros
Hola, soy Chilena y conocí a Marisol. Nací en una familia gnóstica y ella fue gnóstica desde que tengo recuerdos de cuando asistía al IGA (Instituto Gnóstico de Antropología). Tengo 23 años, y la conocí a mis 5 o 6 años, asistía a la sede de Concha y Toro del metro República, Santiago de Chile. Conocí a su primer hijo Ángel y ella asistió al matrimonio de mi tía. Yo no soy gnóstica, pero mi familia sí, y siempre he estado rodeada del conocimiento, sus libros y prácticas. Hace poco me enteré de la trágica historia de Victoria. Reconocí el nombre en tu relato y llamé a mi mamá para confirmar si era ella, y lamentablemente sí es. Desde que se fue a Alemania no había sabido mucho de ella. Lamento mucho lo que pasó, mis recuerdos de ella son muy lindos.
¿Cómo fue el proceso de desintoxicación?
Hola Jessy, pronto compartiré ese proceso en detalle en un par de próximos episodios. De momento te puedo decir que es importante tener un ancla a la realidad, alguien o algo que funcione como un polo a tierra. En mi caso, ese polo a tierra fueron mi familia, la meditación y la ciencia. Tuve que parar por completo mis lecturas y prácticas esotéricas y enfocarme en lo que indiscutiblemente hace parte de la realidad: la respiración, la naturaleza, el trabajo, las relaciones personales más importantes. Uno de los problemas de la Gnosis es que te llena la cabeza de temores que no tienen ningún sustento real. Poco a poco hay que ir retando esos miedos, pasito a pasito mientras vas entendiendo que todos esos miedos siempre fueron un engaño... Bueno, espero poder contribuir más muy pronto!
a mí, la gnosis, el conocimiento milenario, me ha salvado la vida. un saludo a todos.
No sé realmente como calificarte..en verdad la ignorancia es atrevida, tu crees que le hacés daño a la Enseñanza dejada por el Avatara Samael...pues estás equivocado, en cada segundo de tu existencia te undes más en el lodo de tu inmundo verbo...si usted no entiendio el conocimiento, o te dió flojera iniciar tu camino, eso es tú problema..recuerda que la gnosis es para unos pocos...te pones a transcribir párrafos de las obras del avatara...para que...?? Quien queda mal eres tú...La Gnosis no es ninguna Secta, es la Iglesia Cristiana Primitiva...le dedicas tiempo ha hablar mal de la gnosis y la críticas...y cuando vas a criticar y hablar mal del catolicismo y de todos esos curas y obispos PEDERASTAS....???? Si tu intención es dañar la imagen de la gnosis....pierdes tu tiempo...sobre el caso de ese crimen, la responsabilidad penal es personal...en nada tiene que ver la institución con eso....de seguro esas personas no habían comprendido ni el 1% de la enseñanza....y por ese mismo camino andas tu... sin comprender nada, sin practicar nada....y sales hablando mal de la gnosis diciendo que todo es mentira...cuando el del problema eres tú.....he dicho....
En algo tienes razón estimado Pitter: La gnosis es primitiva
Yo me crié en una familia gnóstica, cuando crecí me instrui para ser misionera gnóstica y fui abriendo escuelas y dando las enseñanzas durante más de 10 años como instructora gnostica, hasta que hace 7 años atrás no pude más y renuncie, y si es cierto el proceso de desintoxicación es lento y el daño es mucho, hay muchas cosas que aprendí que aún hago pero no todo tal como me lo dieron, ahora si que me quede con lo que me funciona nada mas, porque al estudiar mi vida puedo ver mucha manipulación y abuso de poder, ahora que tengo una hija me doy cuenta del enorme daño que puede hacer una organización espiritual mal dirigida y nunca la someteria a lo que yo viví, afortunadamente mi esposo pasó por lo mismo que yo y ha sido mi ancla como bien dices a la realidad y que me ayudó a quitarme esa venda que tenía y no me dejaba vivir bien.
Gracias por compartir tu experiencia. Con seguridad que ayudará a muchas personas que están empezando a tener dudas sobre su fe y notando la manipulación, el engaño y el incumplimiento de tantas promesas falsas. Un abrazo!
Que pena que se diga tanta mentira y tergiversacion aca pero bueno, es cierto que hay personas que han dejado mal a la gnosis pero no es culpa d ela Gnosis ni de Samael, se nota que jamas han meditado, usado al energia correctamente y mil cosas , que mala interpretacion de la gnosis aca , que pena pero es verdad la gnosis , es igual al verdadero cristianismo a Jesus lo mataron , y persiguieron su propia gente, la verdad no es aceptada por las masas, solo unos cuantos practican y la entienden el resto anda como esta pagina difamando sin haber sido lo suficientemente disciplinado para comprobar las cosas a profundidad , el intelecto engaña yo he practicado todo se que se puede y no ando queriendo acostarme con las personas que ingresan a la gnosis , eso no se enseña claramente no se entendio nada pero bueno cuando estemos muertos comprobaremos al final saludos. Podria decir mil cosas que estan mal en esta pagina porque si me he preocupado de entender la gnosis con la practica , y he comprendido que es lo mismo que se enseña en otras religiones tal como no se dice aca pero bueno cada uno con su comprension.
Hola Amigo, gracias por tu comentario. Anímate a señalar lo que consideras que es mentira, tergiversación o error en el artículo. Sería interesante debatir. Saludos!
<span>"¿Qué tenía que ver el sexo con los martirios de su enfermedad?"</span> <span>Fácil: El sufrimiento ocurre por la ignorancia, la ignorancia es el ego, el origen del ego está en la fornicación.</span> ¿No es así?
"El origen del ego está en la fornicación"... No, ni desde el punto de vista psicológico, ni neurológico, ni filosófico. "El sufrimiento ocurre por la ignorancia"... Es una afirmación demasiado generalizada, puede ser así pero no siempre ni para todas las personas. "La ignorancia es el ego"... La definición de ignorancia y de ego no se parecen ni de cerca. El problema de muchos esoteristas y los gnósticos en particular, es que se tragan unos conceptos sin ningún fundamento y luego los repiten como mantras como si de tanto repetirlos se fueran a volver ciertos.
"El problema de muchos esoteristas y los gnósticos en particular, es que se tragan unos conceptos sin ningún fundamento y luego los repiten como mantras como si de tanto repetirlos se fueran a volver ciertos". Otra forma forma de decirlo en términos esotéricos sería: "El problema de muchos esoteristas y los gnósticos en particular, es que no se dan cuenta que el primer centro que hay que equilibrar es el centro intelectual inferior, hay que aprender a pensar" Y no te lo niego, por ahora no sé pensar bien. De todas formas la solución al problema que planteas es fácil: Debemos aclarar el significado de tales conceptos para evitar lo mejor que se pueda toda malinterpretación a la vez que sacamos de los mismos una mayor utilidad. Por ejemplo, los conceptos de 'Rueda del Samsara', 'La muerte' y lo que es 'La escencia o chispa divina' son parte de lo que me tiene aquí escribiendo. Si yo pensase que cuando uno se muere es el fin definitivo, tendría una lógica tal que la existencia para mí no tendría sentido y pensaría que vivir no vale la pena. Pero de momento pienso: "No puedo escapar", "tengo que afrontar la situación, rescatar la sabiduría y trascender, auto-realizarme". ¿Cuál es tu opinión respecto a tales conceptos? ¿Piensas que mi interpretación de los mismos causa más daño de lo que ayuda? ¿Considerarías necesario hacer alguna aclaración? O bien me dirías: Estoy de acuerdo con los conceptos de muerte que compartió Samael, en especial la muerte psicológica y pienso que deberías ponerla en práctica justo ahora y dejar de discutir sobre asuntos que -sin importar <span>lo que yo o cualquiera opine- son más reales que quién sabe qué, dependiendo de sus méritos cada quién lo puede comprobar y dudar de tales cosas es propio de los necios, los locos.</span> Jajaja saludos x_x
Hola Amigo, gracias por tu reflexión. Sugieres que la solución al problema que veo en tantos esoteristas y gnósticos es aclarar el significado de los conceptos. Supongo que te refieres a fornicación, ego, ignorancia y sufrimiento. Si has visto mis episodios anteriores, te habrás dado cuenta que a menudo acudo a definiciones de diccionario o de Wikipedia, aclarando siempre que no hay una sola definición y que cualquier definición es por defecto arbitraria. Sin embargo, a mi me gusta acudir a la etimología, es decir al origen lingüístico de las palabras. Tomemos como ejemplo "fornicar": si buscas en Google "origen de la palabra fornicar" encontrás <a href="https://www.muyhistoria.es/curiosidades/preguntas-respuestas/de-donde-viene-la-palabra-fornicar-181413204397" rel="nofollow ugc">este resultado de la revista Muy Interesante</a>. Allí dice que proviene de "fornix" que eran lugares como la parte de abajo de puentes o callejones donde se encontraban las prostitutas, así que fornicar era el acto de tener relaciones sexuales con prostitutas en esos lugares. Uno podría generalizar entonces que fornicar es pagar por sexo o tener sexo como intercambio comercial. Los gnósticos se inventaron que fornicar es derramar el semen, sea como sea. Ahora, independientemente de que se le adjudique a la eyaculación la etiqueta de fornicación, caída, delito o cualquier otra, lo verdaderamente importante es preguntarse de forma crítica si tiene algún sentido que se tache de inmoral o peligroso un proceso totalmente natural, no sólo del hombre sino de casi todos los animales, con el que además se recrea la vida. Si la respuesta es sí, entonces hay que ver las PRUEBAS de esos efectos negativos: estudios clínicos, muestreos representativos, experimentos, observación de campo, etcétera. Si la única evidencia es que está escrito en algún libro o que lo dice algún lider, bueno, entonces no hay prueba que valga, lo único que tienes que saber es que hay cientos de libros sagrados y cientos de líderes religiosos. Estás seguro que el que elegiste es el que tiene la única verdad? No es mucha coincidencia que justo sea uno que nació cerca de donde naciste o que trajeron los que colonizaron la tierra de tus ancestros? O que hablaba tu mismo idioma o fue traducido a tu lengua? En fin, por esas preguntas empieza la liberación del alma.
Amor, en el nombre de la consciencia te estaba escribiendo algo super lindo y razonable pero me aburrí y borré todo. Ahora olvídate de James Cruz. Me presento: soy Yahvéh, Lucifer, o también mejor conocido entre el círculo de personas más intelectuales de tu época como "El dios del dinero". Y de corazón te digo: ¡Gracias, lo estás haciendo muy bien! Por favor continúa distrayendo y animando a la masa a que expulse la energía sexual, no sabes lo mucho que eso me ayuda a mantener la humanidad entera en perpetua esclavitud, en las tinieblas, como me gusta n_n Ese loco de Samael Aun Güeior por un momento me preocupó o_o' Pero lo cierto es que la Rueda del Samsara está super mega acelerada gracias a la ley del péndulo que de momento me favorece y cada vez más chispas caen al abismo sin darse cuenta. ¡Poooobrecitas jajaja! Simplemente no dan la talla xD, meras bobis, se dejan tentar muuuuy fácilmente :v Pero contigo haré una excepción porque me caes bien n_n jeje Y te daré una pista: Mantraliza, medita, practica el sexo bien o mal, escápate por un ratico a la séptima o sexta dimensión y experimenta el cielo. Nada de eso importa porque como bien se dio cuenta una de tus hermanitas: "Muchos filósofos frecuentemente implican que la madurez moral es una solución a nuestra pobreza del espíritu. Sin embargo, es incompleto argumentar a favor de una moralidad mejorada meramente a través del crecimiento personal y una mayor empatía. No es suficiente "cambiarse a sí mismo". Desde la perspectiva de sistemas, no podemos concluir racionalmente que una brújula moral ideal pueda ser fomentada o perpetuada en una condición socioeconómica que no la recompensa. La gente normalmente solo puede caminar contra la corriente cierto tiempo, sin importar qué tan fuertes sean sus convicciones. Los humanos son demasiado vulnerables a las presiones en su entorno. Sin el cambio en la estructura social para abrazar directamente nuestros avances morales idealizados, se puede esperar poco progreso. El hecho es que no importa cuán morales pensemos que somos o qué tan moral creemos que podría ser el mundo, el fanatismo estructural inherente a la lógica del mercado siempre presionará contra lo mejor de nosotros, socavando la integridad, alimentando esta pobreza del espíritu implacablemente". Además parece que empiezas a entender que la miseria es un deleite exquisito. Eso me alegra, serías un gran mago negro n_n ¡Pero bueno! Hasta luegui ¡Y que viiiva el egoísmoooo! n_n
Muy creativo tu comentario y útil para ilustrar el modus operandi de la gnosis: adoctrinar con una dualidad bien/mal en blanco y negro donde lo que no corresponde con la doctrina gnóstica es maldad. Además, reducir algo tan complejo como la realización del Ser a eyacular o no eyacular. La vida es mucho más compleja, bra e interesante que un manojo de reglas que hay que cumplir a rajatabla. Gracias por tomarte el tiempo de compartir tu visión sobre la secta.
No se a que secta entraste disfrazada de GNOSIS la verdadera gnosis no te compromete a nada ni dar diezmos. Llevo 30 años ahí y no te obligan a las prácticas sexuales como lo refieres, mucho menos a compartir donar o algo por el estilo alguna propiedad. Todos los libros se te permiten leer desde que eres iniciado. La forma en que describes el lugar a donde ibas es literal satánico, cosa que Samael aborrecía. El en otros videos y audiuos que no creo hayas escuchado, menciona que él seguía siendo un humano imperfecto en busca de la autorealización del superhombrey que su finalidad era dar a conocer las enseñanzas crísticas. Jamás se sintió inmortal y quienes continuan con la verdadera doctrina no es de ninguna manera como lo describes. Lamento mucho hayas entrado al lugar erróneo y que efectivamente existan muchas sectas en nombre de a GNOSIS. Esto es igual que la religión cristiana, en tu casa puedes hacer un templo cristiano sentirte pastor pero igual te ilusionan te comprometen te enganchan y te hunden. El mal esta más a la vista de los ojos humanos que el bien por eso se debe andar con pies de p.lomo a cualquier doctrina que desees indagar incluso la católica.
Por lo que cuentas, tal vez diste con un grupo poco dañino pero miles de personas no han tenido esa suerte y han requerido intensas terapias para superar el trauma que la gnosis les deja. Samael era muy contradictorio así que seguramente encontrarás que dijo lo que refieres, pero también lo que yo compartí en el artículo. Si necesitas referencia, yo puse las fuentes en cada parte del artículo en donde las utilicé. En cuanto a ser obligado, puede que muy pocos líderes de secta "obliguen" a sus víctimas a hacer algo. Lo que hacen es manipularlos para que crean que lo están haciendo por voluntad propia. Si te convencen de que si no haces algo específico, entonces te vas a condenar, no podrás lograr nada que te propongas o que perderás a tu familia, tu vida o tu alma, créeme que correrás a hacerlo sin pensar. Gracias por compartir tu opinión!
Se siente en todo el escrito un ambiente preparatorio para usted defender su propia debilidad, Esa debilidad la confesó finalmente en el siguiente párrafo: "Pero donde Samael enfocó con furia su espada flamígera fue sobre toda conducta sexual no tradicional. Todos los miembros de la comunidad LGTBI+ y personas con género fluido o diverso eran para él “infrasexuales” condenados irremediablemente a las llamas de los mundos infiernos. Incluso los practicantes de la inocente y saludable masturbación" Evidentemente usted no pudo luchar contra su propia infrasexualidad y derrotado por su propio fracaso ha decidido atacar a la gnosis trayendo por los cabellos un asunto tan lamentable como el asesinato de su propia hija cometido por una pobre madre con problemas mentales. Yo le respondo a su escrito de la siguiente manera: Tranquilo caballero, rendido ante la esfera de Lilih, siga militando en su logía infrasexual que han dado por llamar "LGTB y defiendala, que aunque usted siga difundiendo manipulaciones y descargando su frustración en contra de las enseñanzas, ellas seguirán ahí, y usted seguirá siendo juzgado por su propia verdad interior., Pues en el caso de la gnosis el que entra, lo hace voluntariamente y también el que sale, y sólo le prestarán oídos a sus justificaciones, quienes no estén en el ánimo de vencerse a sí mismos y seguir el camino de la autorrealización. Un abrazo..
Hola don Julio, gracias por tomar el tiempo de leer mi escrito, que dicho sea de paso no fue creado para convencer a quienes eligen creer en las fantasías de la gnosis o cualquier otro credo. Teniendo en cuenta que lo que ustedes llaman "infrasexual" es todo lo que la naturaleza ha creado a través de millones de años de evolución, que propaga la vida, produce placer y refleja el amor, pues no me incomoda para nada ser categorizado como "infrasexual". Lo que sí debe tener en cuenta es que el espacio para denigrar y discriminar por orientación o identidad sexual, se está acabando en el mundo democrático de derecho. Esa discriminación y ataques contra personas LGBTI+ que antes se veía como parte de la libertad de credo, hoy en día se reconoce como delito, al igual que las técnicas de manipulación emocional que suelen usar como amenazar con infiernos y condenaciones a quienes no obedezcan sus normas retrógadas (Sí, así digan que cada quien es libre y bla-bla-bla.
Buenos días. Gracias por confirmar su militancia en defensa de los grupos LGTB. De la misma manera que estando alerta pudimos descifrar en su escrito dicha simpatía, de su respuesta podemos deducir dos cuestiones : 1- Cuando llama" fantasías" al conocimiento gnóstico y a las creencias religiosas y duda de la existencia de los mundos infiernos, parece usted un seguidor del Materialismo ateo, ese conjunto de posiciones filosóficas que niega la existencia de Dios y del mundo espiritual y que cómo usted, prefieren repetir una y otra vez el estribillo de "lo que la naturaleza ha creado", negando la función divina en la creación del universo. 2- En su respuesta usted define la infrasexualidad de la siguiente manera: "<span>infrasexual» es todo lo que la naturaleza ha creado a través de millones de años de evolución, que propaga la vida, produce placer y refleja el amor'.</span> Con todo respeto, aunque usted llama fantasías a las creencias gnósticas, esto que acaba de escribir, sí que es una fantasía. Las relaciones sexuales de varón con varón y hembra con hembra no crean vida y no reflejan ningún amor como usted dice, lo único que reflejan es lujuria y degeneración. Entiendo que usted considere que la verdad sea distinta a esta y que su energías las utilice en atacar a la gnosis cuya doctrina pone el dedo en la llaga de su mundo interior., pero los que hemos decidido seguir el camino de la gnosis verdadera, no necesitamos imponerle nuestra agenda a los demás y andar propagandeando como si hacen los grupos LGTB que usted defiende. Tampoco nos sentimos discriminados por quien diga lo que quiera, como sí lo hacen los grupos LGTB que usted defiende, que han llegado al colmo de tipificar como "delito" que se le diga que eso es sodomía e infrasexualidad. Ése es el mundo "democrático" que quieren imponer. Si a los gnósticos los sistema de "justicia, nos van a perseguir por decirle a la gente los mensajes del maestro Samael, no será la primera vez en la historia de siglos. Dentro de usted está su real ser. A ése saluda el mío. Paz inverencial.
Hombre, las cuestiones de religión no se pueden debatir porque los hechos y la evidencia no es relevante para los creyentes. Mi blog se llama "Espiritualidad y Ciencia" precisamente porque no se basa en escrituras "sagradas" ni revelaciones místicas sino en evidencia contrastada y corroborada, además de vivencias personales incuestionables. Dentro de ese marco, no hay nada que valide las posturas discriminatorias y retrógradas de ustedes los gnósticos. Sabe quien sí las validaba? Adolfo Hitler. Feliz domingo
Espiritualidad y ciencia??? Muy paradójico.
Señor Julio, mis respetos a usted. Encontró el flanco débil y hace todo sentido. Gracias por compartir su inteligencia. Saludos desde gnosis Brasil. Abrazos
es triste como este muchacho esta hablando de algo que no comprende y finge comprender todo sobre dichos de otros pero nada realmente esta vivido por si mismo solo son experiencias de otros cuando dijo que tenia experiencia de el mismo, en fin que tristeza por que este muchacho se quemo por si mismo y por culpa de otro para siempre de conocer verdaderamente lo que es los cuentos de los demás y su falta de información le causo un lavado de cerebro total al exponente de este audio.
Es comprensible que pienses que es así, pero por si no leíste todo el artículo o mis otros episodios: pertenecí a un grupo gnóstico por casi 4 años, además de que leí y practiqué un buen número de libros de Samael, incluyendo Matrimonio Perfecto, La Doctrina Secreta de Anahuac, Las Tres Montañas, El Misterio del Aureo Florecer, Tratado de Medicina Oculta y Magia Práctica, Rosa Ígnea y Tratado de Alquimia Sexual. Algo sí puedo abonarle a Samael, le ponía nombres muy buenos a sus libros! Abrazo
Hola estudio la gnosis en el instituto cultural quetzalcoatl En parte tienes razón Poryue es muy evidente que samael copio a el hermetismo rosaxruz gurdjieff cuarto camino pero me ha dado una introducción a estudiar también toma mucho mucho del libro dogma y ritual de alta magia Pero a alía esto Gurdjieff le gustaba mucho el dinero Uspensky se volvió bebe or fuerte y antes de morir dijo vñborren todo Blavatski la controversia co. Los mahatma Eliphas Levy que era un gran sacerdote cabalistico lo expulsarlo. Y hasta osho compró sus rolls royce el eOteriznl es a interpretación y mucha gente no Est preparada Par eso y no debe de echo conocer estos conocimientos el libro parsifal revelado intruduccion a la gnosis y Qluimi sexual los he leído y los co prendo porque se de donde salieron de culquier. Manera samael no es la Gnosis la gnosis existe pero hay que saber buscarla dentro de uno y tener un gran criterio mente Abierta para meterse en el esoterismo gnóstico Saludis
Y ahora, sigues en la gnósis? De alguna manera la gnósis también te invita a saber más y creo que uno decide qué seguir... Lo importante creo, es rescatar de cada cosa lo que a uno le sirve, lo que para uno tiene validez. A mí, me ha llevado a adentrarme a otras cosas y a aprender y averiguar...siempre cuestionando todo. Y creo firmemente que todo fanatismo es malo, no se puede creer absolutamente "en algo". Nadie tiene la verdad absoluta. Las religiones mismas no son absolutamente puras; el budismo viene del hinduísmo; el Cristianismo y el Islam, del judaísmo...la gnósis, de todas las anteriores. Y al final, si no somos fanáticos ni nos volvemos esclavos de alguna corriente, encontraremos nuestra verdadera espiritualidad. Esa que no será necesaria compartir con palabras con nadie, porque nuestros hechos y nuestra forma de ser, hablarán por ella. Al menos, eso es lo que estoy aprendiendo...
Hola Mel, Estoy de acuerdo contigo, por eso mis advertencias sobre la Gnosis se centran en las instituciones y no en sí en el conocimiento. A mí, algunos libros de Samael me siguen pareciendo entretenidos y hasta culturalmente relevantes, pero porque ya pasé por el proceso de creer en que eran algo más que ficción religiosa y darles una importancia que no ameritan. Yo creo que ninguna religión es buena, pero al final son necesarias, o más bien fueron necesarias para la humanidad, pero hoy en día ya deberían estar de salida. No se requieren para formar una ética social, ni para dar propósito a la existencia. Por eso elegí y sugiero el camino de la ciencia junto con la verdadera espiritualidad como un camino alternativo. Saludos!
¿Hasta qué punto se le rinde culto a la personalidad de Samael más que a las enseñanzas? El culto a la personalidad es el rasgo principal de las sectas y dictaduras. Además, Samael, etimológicamente, significa veneno de Dios. ¿Eso no les dice algo?
Gracias por tu aporte Lisa. Es cierto, también se puede traducir del hebreo como "Ceguera de Dios"